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先前為了討論政府資料跨部門運用之法制研析，國發會主辦並由國巨法律事務所執行之委託研究案，於2018年8月16日召開焦點座談會，討論了政府與政府間之資料交換（G2G），於8月22日召開直播焦點座談會，討論了政府資訊開放民間運用（G2C），並於8月30日召開直播焦點座談會，討論了民間開放資料提供政府運用（C2G）。參考資料：https://vtaiwan.tw/topic/data-integration
2018/8/22直播網址：https://www.facebook.com/vtaiwan.tw/videos/281225709327719/
2018/8/30直播網址：https://www.facebook.com/vtaiwan.tw/videos/421514058374561/
接續先前三場焦點座談會，經vTaiwan社群共同討論，決定以案例的方式具體化討論內容，並綜合討論「政府與政府間」、「政府對民間」、「民間對政府」三種跨部門資料運用的面向，期待能完整勾勒出跨部門資料運用的方法和困難。
以空氣汙染作為例子，經濟部和環保署間常有空氣汙染的資料交換，並會分別交互使用民間組織「空氣盒子」蒐集到的空氣汙染資料，同時涵蓋三種跨部門資料運用的面向。再以勞工薪資為例，財政部和行政院主計總處間常有薪資統計的資料交換，並會分別交互使用民間企業，如104人力銀行所蒐集調查到的薪資統計資料，同時涵蓋三種跨部門資料運用的面向。
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vTaiwan作為網路社群，對於公開資料和跨部門資料運用非常關心，故將於2018年10月31日晚間七點至九點，再開線上諮詢會議，協助釐清跨部門資料運用之議題。歡迎網友實際現身報名參與，或也可直接在臉書粉絲頁上收看直播！直播傳送門﹕https://www.facebook.com/vtaiwan.tw/videos/687410691642300/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDUwNjg2MjU3MDoxODg1NDAxNzUxNTM2MjIy/
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| 19:00~19:10 | 主持人開場、自我介紹 |
| 19:10~19:20 | 主持人議題說明 |
| 19:20~20:50 | 議題討論 |
| 20:50~21:00 | 總結 |
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1AaVTws4evwY8M50AZn72Lua_lXIxAkPKVIEB2lgpwuA/edit
Q: What is data amongst the public?
A (Billy): Some of the data is sometimes sourced from the public, which helps the government makes decisions. For example, take pigs. The government does not keep a record of pigs, but it helps to get a manifest of pigs, so it asks for the farmers to provide a manifest. If the government wants to provide quality data, it must consider the public as a source, but that comes with its problems.
Follow-up: Is Public data always free? If we are talking about government open data, we should keep this discussion closed to open data.
A: That makes sense, but when we had our discussions, we had always included it. If people don’t think it’s important, we can always change it.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rZ0jVqVI2CwhSL8r_J9JerxQwKcSwEfv/view?usp=sharing
國發會科長報告
From government data from the highest level, there is the problem of providing data from government agency A to B. Between government entities, there is an opportunity to share data. From the opening report, I found several problems. When entity A asks for data from entity B, they must give some reasons. Entity B must decide on the reasons given by entity A as to whether or not it is appropriate to provide the data.
An example: Ministry of Highways and the Police. The Ministry of Highways was unwilling to agree to providing information to the Police because of privacy issues.
It might be possible to create clear data pipelines between different government agencies.
Now to answer the other part: Government providing open data to the public.
Then this is a much harder question. If the government provides data to the public, we have to go back to a more fundamental question: Does the government have the right to provide data to the public? A lot of community members were hoping that we could legislate a responsibility for the government to provide open data. We considered this, but legislating is not easy. The difficulty is high. Another consideration is: if we cannot legislate, what else can we do?
Through the government Freedom of Information Act (? better trans. needed) is a way of the government to provide data to the public. What are its limitations? How does it do comparatively? What about the Australian government? The FOIA in Australia works differently. The FOIA sets the norm that government must be open, but it does not set a methodology that government must be open. For example, y
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