lí kám ū thiann-tio̍h in ê giân
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| 2014-03-31 15:30 | r1687 | |
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(minimalist fetch and json from irc included in this project, will use 319 Event Data Collection when available)
- Transcripts typicaly include:
+ Transcripts typically include:
*Timestamp
*Place
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| 2014-03-29 19:34 – 19:35 | r1663 – r1686 | |
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很多有意思的話，我注意不到。
text 和 video 的 livestream 事實上我大腦無法處理。（你們會有這個問題嗎？）
+ *看非中文的 livestream 就有可能無法處理 XD
找到的資料大部分都是 chronological.
現在有沒有計劃作一個讓人look back at what have been said
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| 2014-03-28 05:03 – 05:03 | r1580 – r1662 | |
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*elasticsearch for the index
*a-tsioh: just curious, how do you plan to host the server? or do we have a hosted elaticsearch server ready? (cuz one server should be able to serve multiple projects, if the loading is not heavy)
+ *got a server in Europe, if the link is not fast enough, we can see how to host it in Taiwan, installing elasticsearch is extremely simple.
*Livescript on the clientside, we may need some d3js (just because I like it)
*select a UI toolkit (no preference for now
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| 2014-03-27 07:30 – 07:30 | r1548 – r1579 | |
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*e.g., "KMT的奧步啊" "深藍是超想當中國人的" have similar stand pointa
*sounds hard if we don't define the topics on which the standpoints are given beforehand
+ *FYI, Gene Hong (黑貘) did a related project: http://gene.speaking.tw/2014/03/tvbs-tvbs-10-1129.html
*The Data
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| 2014-03-27 06:19 – 06:31 | r1341 – r1547 | |
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*目的
+ 讓人瀏覽在立法院附近（包括PTT，IRC,網路）人人所說的言
Provide a webpage to search and browse public speeches made around the 立法院
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*User story
+ 使用者可能無法當時一直聽或看文博，或許想看global picture
+ 加上幾個月後，想記起現在在發生什麼
+ 從一個PO，可以看到上下一個跟類似的（同一個話題）
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A typical user may not have followed the whole event or missed part of it. He wants to have a clearer picture of the though shared on the different stages around the legislative yuan.
*需要什麼
*understand and select what source of data may be relevant and shall be indexed
+ *選重要資料的來源，
*Structure the data so that the meta-data can be used (timestamps, location, kind of intervention/speaker)
*Create a semantic space to find similar messages
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*is this possible? (can you explain more ?give an example)
*e.g., "KMT的奧步啊" "深藍是超想當中國人的" have similar stand pointa
+ *sounds hard if we don't define the topics on which the standpoints are given beforehand
*The Data
See 319 Event Data Collection
- (minimalist fetch and json from irc included)
+ (minimalist fetch and json from irc included in this project, will use 319 Event Data Collection when available)
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Transcripts typicaly include:
*Timestamp
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| 2014-03-26 04:40 – 04:40 | r1336 – r1340 | |
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*目的
- Provide a webpage to search and browse public speeches made around the
+ Provide a webpage to search and browse public speeches made around the 立法院
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*User story
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| 2014-03-25 15:36 – 16:08 | r1168 – r1335 | |
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*dealing with videos
- Just a question, if we precise location and time of the begining of each recording, does it make sense to link it to the text feeds ?
+ Just a question, if we precise location and time of the beginning of each recording, does it make sense to link it to the text feeds ?
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*Django on the serverside ( I need some python libs)
*elasticsearch for the index
+ *a-tsioh: just curious, how do you plan to host the server? or do we have a hosted elaticsearch server ready? (cuz one server should be able to serve multiple projects, if the loading is not heavy)
*Livescript on the clientside, we may need some d3js (just because I like it)
*select a UI toolkit (no preference for now
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*Kirby Wu 我有 logbot 跟 bbs 的 crawler, 文字直播跟鄉民的消息都可以做.. (logbot 其實比較好的是拿 dump database or api endpoint )
*video 則需要有逐字稿或至少自動翻譯.. facebook 可以建立一個專頁, 請大家把相關訊息轉入, 再用程式自動備份...其他資料來源就得 case by case?
+ *PTT 八卦板上有很多其他資料的 link, 至少廣為流傳的都不會漏掉
*Pierre Magistry I was thinking about starting with the live transcription archive (and 文播記錄) that are already timestamped, this may help to align Mandarin and English and maybe even video if possible
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| 2014-03-25 04:55 – 04:55 | r1158 – r1167 | |
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*所以我覺得能用logbot解決當然很好，現在可能先以HumanAPI為主，當然如果logbot翻譯水準很高，又另當別論
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+ *FYI: http://share.inside.com.tw/posts/4292
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| 2014-03-25 03:14 | r1157 | |
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| 2014-03-25 03:13 – 03:14 | r1136 – r1156 | |
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+ Github page:
+ https://github.com/a-tsioh/kam-u-thiann-tioh
*目的
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或許有而有只是沒發現。
沒有的話，我願意來負責
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- *Seen by 19
- *Matthieu Fontaine and 2 others like this.
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*Kirby Wu 我有 logbot 跟 bbs 的 crawler, 文字直播跟鄉民的消息都可以做.. (logbot 其實比較好的是拿 dump database or api endpoint )
*video 則需要有逐字稿或至少自動翻譯.. facebook 可以建立一個專頁, 請大家把相關訊息轉入, 再用程式自動備份...其他資料來源就得 case by case?
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*Pierre Magistry I was thinking about starting with the live transcription archive (and 文播記錄) that are already timestamped, this may help to align Mandarin and English and maybe even video if possible
- *3 hrs · Like
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- *Pierre Magistry one usecase would also be to allow people that were not following to catch up (including foreign press)
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+ Pierre Magistry one usecase would also be to allow people that were not following to catch up (including foreign press)
*Pierre Magistry 有些無關的事我得先處理。晚一點會回來。
*有興趣的人請舉手。計劃會需要比我多瞭解情況和資料的人(算.txt租吧)還有UI-designer 我個人會看一下怎麼用elasticsearch 作 search and classification，也可以pre-process data。
*如果你在臺大附近，今晚就可以見面，不然網路上也可以
- *2 hrs · Like
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- *Pierre Magistry thinking of calling this project
- *" kám ū thiann-tioh in ê giân ?"
- *45 mins · Like
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- *Kirby Wu i can help, but maybe over internet... let's just create a hackpad to formalize the idea and features?
- *15 mins · Like
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- *Pierre Magistry ok
- *14 mins · Like
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*Ymow Wu 我前天做好一個，有點像是包在kirby你說的架構底下，我原本是希望報名上台發表言論的人，能夠用這系統報名，直接接到文字轉播系統，但是目前可能會暫緩，先用新聞瀏覽器的模式擴大傳播效應，自動翻譯我原本要把文字轉播丟到google翻譯再接回來直接放在Androdi app，但是
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*google翻譯不可行, 那成品還不夠精準，都要中英日三語直播，我們可以幫忙的譯者會挺你們到底
*所以我覺得能用logbot解決當然很好，現在可能先以HumanAPI為主，當然如果logbot翻譯水準很高，又另當別論
- *2 mins · Like
+ *
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| 2014-03-24 17:43 – 17:47 | r1096 – r1135 | |
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*analyze semantic to recognize stand point of specific message
*is this possible? (can you explain more ?give an example)
+ *e.g., "KMT的奧步啊" "深藍是超想當中國人的" have similar stand pointa
*The Data
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| 2014-03-24 17:03 – 17:04 | r1092 – r1095 | |
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*a timeline for quickly understanding what have been said
*a map for quickly identifying where the message is delivered
- *analyze semantic to recognize stand point of sepcific message
+ *analyze semantic to recognize stand point of specific message
*is this possible? (can you explain more ?give an example)
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| 2014-03-24 17:03 – 17:03 | r1066 – r1091 | |
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*The Data
+ See 319 Event Data Collection
+ (minimalist fetch and json from irc included)
Transcripts typicaly include:
*Timestamp
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| 2014-03-24 14:25 – 14:38 | r1045 – r1065 | |
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*a map for quickly identifying where the message is delivered
*analyze semantic to recognize stand point of sepcific message
- *is this possible?
+ *is this possible? (can you explain more ?give an example)
*The Data
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| 2014-03-24 13:54 – 14:07 | r817 – r1044 | |
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*Create a semantic space to find similar messages
*Define a list of relevant keyword that should be spotted by the system to relate messages.
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+ *word cloud or sth like that for what people are saying now
+ *a timeline for quickly understanding what have been said
+ *a map for quickly identifying where the message is delivered
+ *analyze semantic to recognize stand point of sepcific message
+ *is this possible?
*The Data
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| 2014-03-24 12:22 – 13:02 | r123 – r816 | |
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*目的
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+ Provide a webpage to search and browse public speeches made around the
*User story
-
+ A typical user may not have followed the whole event or missed part of it. He wants to have a clearer picture of the though shared on the different stages around the legislative yuan.
*需要什麼
+ *understand and select what source of data may be relevant and shall be indexed
+ *Structure the data so that the meta-data can be used (timestamps, location, kind of intervention/speaker)
+ *Create a semantic space to find similar messages
+ *Define a list of relevant keyword that should be spotted by the system to relate messages.
+
+
+ *The Data
+ Transcripts typicaly include:
+ *Timestamp
+ *Place
+ *person
+ *text
+ *may have an English translation
+ From the text, we may extract some keywords (like names of politic figures, event, places...)
+
+ *dealing with videos
+ Just a question, if we precise location and time of the begining of each recording, does it make sense to link it to the text feeds ?
*用的技術
+ *Django on the serverside ( I need some python libs)
+ *elasticsearch for the index
+ *Livescript on the clientside, we may need some d3js (just because I like it)
+ *select a UI toolkit (no preference for now
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| 2014-03-24 10:11 – 10:14 | r16 – r122 | |
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+ *目的
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+ *User story
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+ *需要什麼
+
+
+ *用的技術
+
+ ----
+ 先把FB 的 messages 放在這
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+ _________
大家好！
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| 2014-03-24 10:11 | r15 | |
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| 2014-03-24 10:07 – 10:11 | r1 – r14 | |
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+ lí kám ū thiann-tio̍h in ê giân
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+ 大家好！
+ 我身爲國語有限制的外國人。
+ 在現在發生的事件，資料已經多得難以處理。
+ 很多有意思的話，我注意不到。
+ text 和 video 的 livestream 事實上我大腦無法處理。（你們會有這個問題嗎？）
+ 找到的資料大部分都是 chronological.
+ 現在有沒有計劃作一個讓人look back at what have been said
+ just like a search engine over the transcript/videos
+ 或許有而有只是沒發現。
+ 沒有的話，我願意來負責
+
+ Like · · Share
+ *
+ *Seen by 19
+ *Matthieu Fontaine and 2 others like this.
+ *
+ *
+ *Kirby Wu 我有 logbot 跟 bbs 的 crawler, 文字直播跟鄉民的消息都可以做.. (logbot 其實比較好的是拿 dump database or api endpoint )
+ *video 則需要有逐字稿或至少自動翻譯.. facebook 可以建立一個專頁, 請大家把相關訊息轉入, 再用程式自動備份...其他資料來源就得 case by case?
+ *3 hrs · Like
+ *
+ *
+ *Pierre Magistry I was thinking about starting with the live transcription archive (and 文播記錄) that are already timestamped, this may help to align Mandarin and English and maybe even video if possible
+ *3 hrs · Like
+ *
+ *
+ *Pierre Magistry one usecase would also be to allow people that were not following to catch up (including foreign press)
+ *3 hrs · Like · 1
+ *
+ *
+ *Pierre Magistry 有些無關的事我得先處理。晚一點會回來。
+ *有興趣的人請舉手。計劃會需要比我多瞭解情況和資料的人(算.txt租吧)還有UI-designer 我個人會看一下怎麼用elasticsearch 作 search and classification，也可以pre-process data。
+ *如果你在臺大附近，今晚就可以見面，不然網路上也可以
+ *2 hrs · Like
+ *
+ *
+ *Pierre Magistry thinking of calling this project
+ *" kám ū thiann-tioh in ê giân ?"
+ *45 mins · Like
+ *
+ *
+ *Kirby Wu i can help, but maybe over internet... let's just create a hackpad to formalize the idea and features?
+ *15 mins · Like
+ *
+ *
+ *Pierre Magistry ok
+ *14 mins · Like
+ *
+ *
+ *Ymow Wu 我前天做好一個，有點像是包在kirby你說的架構底下，我原本是希望報名上台發表言論的人，能夠用這系統報名，直接接到文字轉播系統，但是目前可能會暫緩，先用新聞瀏覽器的模式擴大傳播效應，自動翻譯我原本要把文字轉播丟到google翻譯再接回來直接放在Androdi app，但是
+ *@Sunny Chien 說 ：
+ *google翻譯不可行, 那成品還不夠精準，都要中英日三語直播，我們可以幫忙的譯者會挺你們到底
+ *所以我覺得能用logbot解決當然很好，現在可能先以HumanAPI為主，當然如果logbot翻譯水準很高，又另當別論
+ *2 mins · Like
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| 2014-03-24 10:06 | r0 | |
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