vTaiwan 2018.02.28 小松

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2018-03-01 17:00 – 17:17 仔魚 r1378 – r1391
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*中文也需要~ 簡要中文版網站,或可以想成好看的「關於我們」「計畫起源」「如何使用」「經典案例」等等的簡要說明
+ *++
5.IxDA感言
https://www.facebook.com/ixda.tw/posts/1871263162892119
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*驚!
+ *可以嗎(著作權授權之意)
*點讚XDDDThank you! It’s an honor to receive the Future Voice Award from IxDA. I’d like to take this chance on stage to share a little bit more about what is happening in Taiwan, and how the design world could learn from that.
I stepped outside of the design world a couple of years ago and started working with the Taiwanese government on vTaiwan, the project that won this award. So it’s been a while since I was immersed in the ideas and concepts so familiar to everyone in this room: insights, design challenges, brainstorming, prototyping… This is my first IxDA and in a lot of ways, it feels like coming home. And in coming home, I’m also bringing with me what I learned while I was away…
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2018-03-01 14:04 – 14:04 Audrey Tang r1376 – r1377
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*網站內容調整
政府資料跨部門運用之法制研析案
- https://vtaiwan.tw/topic/big-data-with-gov/
- 簡報是不是對一般人而言還是有點硬?
+ hhttps://vtaiwan.tw/topic/data-integration簡報是不是對一般人而言還是有點硬?
>>之後再透過FB發懶人包之類的方式宣傳,不直接變動簡報&網頁內容。
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2018-03-01 06:04 – 06:05 Peace r1360 – r1375
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*覺得演講棒棒,貼在這裡紀念
- *驚!Thank you! It’s an honor to receive the Future Voice Award from IxDA. I’d like to take this chance on stage to share a little bit more about what is happening in Taiwan, and how the design world could learn from that.
+ *驚!
+ *點讚XDDDThank you! It’s an honor to receive the Future Voice Award from IxDA. I’d like to take this chance on stage to share a little bit more about what is happening in Taiwan, and how the design world could learn from that.
I stepped outside of the design world a couple of years ago and started working with the Taiwanese government on vTaiwan, the project that won this award. So it’s been a while since I was immersed in the ideas and concepts so familiar to everyone in this room: insights, design challenges, brainstorming, prototyping… This is my first IxDA and in a lot of ways, it feels like coming home. And in coming home, I’m also bringing with me what I learned while I was away…
The nature of challenges that are most important right now are ones that don’t have a single owner. We might be able to design something like a cellphone in a private lab, but what about an entire education system? It’s impossible for one genius to have the perfect idea for educating a nation’s children. Even if you are a genius, and have the perfect idea, how do you shift from today’s education system to a future model? We need to think together and work together. We need to be situated, be in that shared space, create meaningful conversation that lasts.
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2018-03-01 05:14 – 05:14 仔魚 r1351 – r1359
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點後)、fiorella、于珊、書漾、Olivia*簡報:TMonk(已填大松1
:25報告)
- *如果每次不同人簡報就會有去中心化感,覺得開心!
*簡報大綱
*介紹vTaiwan(可參考上次簡報)
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2018-03-01 03:02 – 03:06 Shu Yang Lin r1293 – r1350
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vTaiwan 2018.02.28 小松
- 出席:Peace、tmonk、仔魚、Jay、scott、于珊、fiorella、書漾、夢諍
+ 出席:Peace、tmonk、仔魚、Jay、scott、于珊、fiorella、書漾、孟諍
*3/3的大松準備
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*覺得=簡要版英文網站
+ *中文也需要~ 簡要中文版網站,或可以想成好看的「關於我們」「計畫起源」「如何使用」「經典案例」等等的簡要說明
5.IxDA感言
https://www.facebook.com/ixda.tw/posts/1871263162892119
*覺得演講棒棒,貼在這裡紀念
- Thank you! It’s an honor to receive the Future Voice Award from IxDA. I’d like to take this chance on stage to share a little bit more about what is happening in Taiwan, and how the design world could learn from that.
+
+ *驚!Thank you! It’s an honor to receive the Future Voice Award from IxDA. I’d like to take this chance on stage to share a little bit more about what is happening in Taiwan, and how the design world could learn from that.
I stepped outside of the design world a couple of years ago and started working with the Taiwanese government on vTaiwan, the project that won this award. So it’s been a while since I was immersed in the ideas and concepts so familiar to everyone in this room: insights, design challenges, brainstorming, prototyping… This is my first IxDA and in a lot of ways, it feels like coming home. And in coming home, I’m also bringing with me what I learned while I was away…
The nature of challenges that are most important right now are ones that don’t have a single owner. We might be able to design something like a cellphone in a private lab, but what about an entire education system? It’s impossible for one genius to have the perfect idea for educating a nation’s children. Even if you are a genius, and have the perfect idea, how do you shift from today’s education system to a future model? We need to think together and work together. We need to be situated, be in that shared space, create meaningful conversation that lasts.
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2018-03-01 02:19 – 02:19 仔魚 r1289 – r1292
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出席:Peace、tmonk、仔魚、Jay、scott、于珊、fiorella、書漾、夢諍
- *大松準備
+ *3/3的大松準備
定位
意見徵集階段的事前準備,搜集要產出類似問卷的東西所需要的材料(沒有在大松做)
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2018-03-01 02:06 – 02:07 Peace r1282 – r1288
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2018-02-28 14:48 – 15:25 仔魚 r779 – r1281
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分工
- *簡報:TMonk(已填大松1
+ *當天確認出席:TMonk、子魚、Peace、余劼(1
+ 點後)、fiorella、于珊、書漾、Olivia*簡報:TMonk(已填大松1
:25報告)
+ *如果每次不同人簡報就會有去中心化感,覺得開心!
*簡報大綱
*介紹vTaiwan(可參考上次簡報)
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*因為這樣那樣,今天我們要做訪談唷>.^
*徵求:公務員、g0v各位大大小小
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- 網站「使用手冊」更新
- 把之前寫在Fb社團的「如何參與我們」放到vTaiwan官網上的使用手冊裡(原內容可以移到討論區內),因為沒有權限所以fork了一個版本,大概改好了,但是可能需要邊確認邊修改,需要有權限的人幫忙。
- >>大松再來push。
-
+ *目前報名紀錄組:
+ 于珊、Olivia
其他
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,
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訪談重點:民間使用政府資料
- *大松準備
- *
+ *意見徵集工具討論
+ 子魚:
+ 我自己想用polis,一方面是因為問題的層面比較廣,像上次說的那樣感覺和uber案比較像,需要原則性的共識(EX:納保、納管、納稅),另一方面是期望參與的人數能夠提升,讓資料量多到至少超過幾百筆(于珊:翻譯Polis的說明文件發現不建議同時超過100)人使用,,即使使用polis也需要先有一些題目放在裡面,所以到時候可能就會放大松蒐集到的意見+國巨的初稿。
+
+ TMonk:
+ 1.覺得我們要更了解工具才行
+ 2.蒐集意見的工具難道不能兩種並行嗎?
+
+
+ 了解工具:
+ Q.Pol.is到底是不是AI?
+ (仔魚:if是AI似乎就應該要去了解他盒子裡的東西)
+ >>根據人們的反應(贊成反對)分群
+ >>感覺比較像數學統計方法
+
+ *網站內容調整
+ 政府資料跨部門運用之法制研析案
+ https://vtaiwan.tw/topic/big-data-with-gov/
+ 簡報是不是對一般人而言還是有點硬?
+ >>之後再透過FB發懶人包之類的方式宣傳,不直接變動簡報&網頁內容。
+
+ 網如何促進遠距協作?>站「使用手冊」更新
+ *把之前寫在Fb社團的「參與我們」說明文件內容放到vTaiwan官網上的使用手冊裡(原內容「如何發言」等或許可以移到討論區內)
+ *因為沒有權限所以fork了一個版本,大概改好了,但是可能需要邊確認邊修改,需要有權限的人幫忙。
+ >>大松再來push。
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+
+ *海外PR
+ 1.外媒訪談QA:vTaiwan外媒採訪QA
+ 請大家幫填~~順便了解大家看法和願景
+
+ 題外話:「參與者」的範圍&分群
+ 2.書漾的英文介紹簡報
+ 請大家給feedback
+
+ 3.影片拍攝
+ Hi~ The film’s maker, Christian, is really moved by vTaiwan initiative, and he just offered to do two more films for vTaiwan! :) he is asking if there is anyway he could help out vTaiwan. What focus on the stories should he take, in order to help us spread out the words, any suggestions?
+ TA可能要再更明確一點:
+ 了解如何使用?了解vTaiwan的影響力?
+ 34影一個英文的專案介紹頁
+ 類似http://g0v.asia/,羅列過去vTaiwan專案的來龍去脈
+ *覺得=簡要版英文網站
+
+ 5.IxDA感言
+ https://www.facebook.com/ixda.tw/posts/1871263162892119
+ *覺得演講棒棒,貼在這裡紀念
+ Thank you! It’s an honor to receive the Future Voice Award from IxDA. I’d like to take this chance on stage to share a little bit more about what is happening in Taiwan, and how the design world could learn from that.
+ I stepped outside of the design world a couple of years ago and started working with the Taiwanese government on vTaiwan, the project that won this award. So it’s been a while since I was immersed in the ideas and concepts so familiar to everyone in this room: insights, design challenges, brainstorming, prototyping… This is my first IxDA and in a lot of ways, it feels like coming home. And in coming home, I’m also bringing with me what I learned while I was away…
+ The nature of challenges that are most important right now are ones that don’t have a single owner. We might be able to design something like a cellphone in a private lab, but what about an entire education system? It’s impossible for one genius to have the perfect idea for educating a nation’s children. Even if you are a genius, and have the perfect idea, how do you shift from today’s education system to a future model? We need to think together and work together. We need to be situated, be in that shared space, create meaningful conversation that lasts.
+ But, how? We wish to tackle complex challenges that are crucial to our society and work collaboratively with all disciplines. But how? how do we all work together, collaboratively, within a large group, with enormous amount of inputs, and still, keep iterating on sustainable solutions?
+ In Taiwan, we are conducting this experiment at a national scale. After The Sunflower movement in 2014, a student led movement that occupied the parliament for 22 days and conducted a real deliberation, a request emerged, that was a request to build a platform that would allow the entire society to engage in “rational discussion” of public matters at a national scale. The largest civic tech community, g0v, took the challenge and implemented the platform in two weeks. The name of the project is vTaiwan. vTaiwan is an experiment that prototypes an open consultation process that brings Taiwanese citizens and government together in online and offline spaces, to deliberate and reach rough consensus on national issues, and craft national digital legislation. That is 480 thousand public servants working together with 23 million citizens, co-creating policies that follows their rough consensus. It is a “recursive public” that shapes an interactive environment that is capable of speaking to existing forms of power through an evolving rough consensus.
+ We use machine learning to help compute rough consensus among large groups; we livestream all consultation meetings to have the process as transparent as possible.
+ Technology does help, but the key to its success is really about trust. If no one is willing to speak out, there wouldn’t be any comments on the platform, if there is one person unwilling to have the meeting live-streamed, the camera won’t be turned on, then the process wouldn’t be transparent.
+ I see vTaiwan as an ongoing experiment for Taiwanese government to cocreate meaningful policies with its citizen. But the experiment’s scope is not limited to Taiwan or any particular government. It’s also an experiment to prototype out a model for consensus generation among large groups. It’s an experiment for a new way of working together, to unconditionally trust when collaborating, to be more open and transparent, and to gain the potential to be trusted. vTaiwan’s excellence is not based on how many regulations have been modified, but because of the scalable and sustainable collaboration system it prototypes.
+ In the open government initiative, we talk about open source, radical transparency, decentralized government, adhocracy, direct democarcy…The four pillars for open government are transparecy, participation, collaboration and inclusion, and that might just nicely guide us in how we could all work and think together as global citizens living on the earth.
+ These are some of the ideas and concepts floating around in the digital government space, and I am bringing them home to share with you. And even further, I encourage you all to find ways to open up your projects, make it transparent by legible documentation, make it collaborative by open sourcing every step, make it inclusive by creating an open space.
+ Tomorrow, designers should be ready to enter the field, to bridge across cultures, disciplines and industries, be prepared to real adventures where you will live with your users, when you have to write your own design statement and come up with the design challenge that is crucial to our society and converge to a shared goal. And I hope when that day comes, you are all comfortable with having every step in your design process transparent, participative, collaborative and inclusive.
+ So, I want to thank you all, thank you for this amazing award. Let’s not take experiments for granted, and I am not taking tonight for granted.
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2018-02-28 14:43 – 14:48 仔魚 r709 – r777
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*因為這樣那樣,今天我們要做訪談唷>.^
*徵求:公務員、g0v各位大大小小
+
+ 網站「使用手冊」更新
+ 把之前寫在Fb社團的「如何參與我們」放到vTaiwan官網上的使用手冊裡(原內容可以移到討論區內),因為沒有權限所以fork了一個版本,大概改好了,但是可能需要邊確認邊修改,需要有權限的人幫忙。
+ >>大松再來push。
+
其他
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,
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訪談重點:民間使用政府資料
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*大松準備
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2018-02-28 14:21 – 14:43 仔魚 r368 – r707
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出席:Peace、tmonk、仔魚、Jay、scott、于珊、fiorella、書漾、夢諍
- *大松討論
+ *大松準備
+ 定位
+ 意見徵集階段的事前準備,搜集要產出類似問卷的東西所需要的材料(沒有在大松做)
+ >>國巨的初稿問卷+大松搜集的意見
+ =第一階段意見徵集階段的材料(暫定)
+ ex.Pol.is的預設問題or問卷(依方法不同而做不同應用)
+
+ 目標
+ *取得資料使用者(常常有使用政府資料需求的人=g0v參與者)過去在取得政府資料的具體經驗
+ *瞭解現行法下和修法後理想中的使用者情境
+ *暸解本案用什麼方式&工具徵集意見比較好
+ *把對議題有興趣的人都加入FB Group以便後續聯繫
+
+ 手段
+ *個別訪談並記錄,讓受訪者自己談論過去經驗,發散沒有關係但希望以真實經歷中遇到的困難為主&願景(要是這樣那樣就好了)
+ *雖然先發散但是不是還是要設定一些具體的題目,以因應受訪人不知道要說什麼的狀況(?)
+
+ 分工
+ *簡報:TMonk(已填大松1
+ :25報告)
+ *簡報大綱
+ *介紹vTaiwan(可參考上次簡報)
+ *介紹跨部門資料運用案(國巨簡報P3的結構)
+ *因為這樣那樣,今天我們要做訪談唷>.^
+ *徵求:公務員、g0v各位大大小小
+ 其他
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,
1.目前人們就本議題所遇到的問題的搜集:
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訪談重點:民間使用政府資料
- 把人加入FB Group
- *大松分工
- 簡報:
- 一、介紹vTaiwan
- *vTaiwan
- 二、介紹跨部門資料運用案
- 三、今天要做什麼
- 紀錄:于珊
+
+ *大松準備
+ *
2018-02-28 07:34 – 08:06 tmonk r336 – r367
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- 出席:Peace、tmonk、仔魚、Jay、scott、于珊、fiorella
+ 出席:Peace、tmonk、仔魚、Jay、scott、于珊、fiorella、書漾、夢諍
*大松討論
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簡報:
一、介紹vTaiwan
+ *vTaiwan
二、介紹跨部門資料運用案
三、今天要做什麼
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2018-02-28 07:25 仔魚 r335
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*大松討論
- 來的人可能\對議題瞭解的程度不一,
+ 來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,
1.目前人們就本議題所遇到的問題的搜集:
使用這個法規的情境收集(在什麼樣的情況下會需要適用這樣的法律)
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2018-02-28 07:12 – 07:15 tmonk r280 – r334
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+ 出席:Peace、tmonk、仔魚、Jay、scott、于珊、fiorella
*大松討論
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2018-02-28 06:17 – 06:17 仔魚 r276 – r279
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二、介紹跨部門資料運用案
三、今天要做什麼
- 紀錄:
+ 紀錄:于珊
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二、介紹跨部門資料運用案
三、今天要做什麼
+ 紀錄:
2018-02-28 05:57 – 05:58 tmonk r258 – r273
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*大松分工
簡報:
- 介紹vTaiwan
- 跨部門資料運用案
- 今天要做什麼
- 徵求:公務員、各位g0v大大小小
+ 一、介紹vTaiwan
+ 二、介紹跨部門資料運用案
+ 三、今天要做什麼
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2018-02-28 04:08 – 04:39 仔魚 r220 – r256
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*大松分工
簡報:
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- 徵求:
- 公務員、各位g0v大大小小
+ 介紹vTaiwan
+ 跨部門資料運用案
+ 今天要做什麼
+ 徵求:公務員、各位g0v大大小小
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*大松討論
- 來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,
+ 來的人可能\對議題瞭解的程度不一,
1.目前人們就本議題所遇到的問題的搜集:
使用這個法規的情境收集(在什麼樣的情況下會需要適用這樣的法律)
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2018-02-28 03:53 – 03:57 仔魚 r215 – r218
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*大松分工
簡報:
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+
徵求:
- 公務員、各位大大小小
+ 公務員、各位g0v大大小小
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2.意見收集的形式、工具
3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
- >>比較大比例在民間向政府要資料的使用者情境,如果有公務員在政府內交換資料的使用者情境也很歡迎。
+ >>本次大松大比例著重在民間向政府要資料的使用者情境,如果有公務員在政府內交換資料的使用者情境也很歡迎。
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
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2018-02-28 03:31 – 03:32 仔魚 r201 – r211
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*大松分工
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- 簡報
+ 簡報:
+ 徵求:
+ 公務員、各位大大小小
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2018-02-28 03:31 仔魚 r199
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*大松分工
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+ 簡報
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2.意見收集的形式、工具
3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
- >>比較大ㄉ
+ >>比較大比例在民間向政府要資料的使用者情境,如果有公務員在政府內交換資料的使用者情境也很歡迎。
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
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2018-02-28 03:25 – 03:25 仔魚 r170 – r171
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- 把人加入FB G
+ 把人加入FB Group
*大松分工
2018-02-28 03:25 tmonk r169
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3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
- >>比較大
+ >>比較大ㄉ
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
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2018-02-28 03:25 – 03:25 仔魚 r167 – r168
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訪談重點:民間使用政府資料
- 把人加入F
+ 把人加入FB G
*大松分工
2018-02-28 03:25 tmonk r166
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2.意見收集的形式、工具
3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
- >>比較
+ >>比較大
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
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2018-02-28 03:25 – 03:25 仔魚 r163 – r165
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- 把人加入
+ 把人加入F
*大松分工
2018-02-28 03:25 tmonk r162
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3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
- >>
+ >>比較
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
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2018-02-28 03:25 – 03:25 仔魚 r160 – r161
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+ 把人加入
*大松分工
-
- 把人
2018-02-28 03:25 tmonk r159
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3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
- >>ㄑ
+ >>
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
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2018-02-28 03:25 – 03:25 仔魚 r157 – r158
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>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
- 訪
- 談重點:民間使用政府資料
+ 訪談重點:民間使用政府資料
+
*大松分工
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2018-02-28 03:25 tmonk r156
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3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
- >>
+ >>ㄑ
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
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2018-02-28 03:25 – 03:25 仔魚 r154 – r155
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>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
- 訪談重點:民間使用政府資料
+ 訪
+ 談重點:民間使用政府資料
*大松分工
+
+ 把人
2018-02-28 03:25 tmonk r153
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2.意見收集的形式、工具
3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
- >
+ >>
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
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2018-02-28 03:25 – 03:25 仔魚 r151 – r152
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*大松分工
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- r
2018-02-28 03:25 tmonk r150
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3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
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+ >
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
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2018-02-28 03:25 (unknown) r149
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2018-02-28 03:25 仔魚 r148
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+
+ r
2018-02-28 03:20 – 03:25 tmonk r143 – r147
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2.意見收集的形式、工具
3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
+
>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
訪談重點:民間使用政府資料
- *大松討論
+ *大松分工
2018-02-28 03:20 (unknown) r142
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2018-02-28 03:20 – 03:20 tmonk r140 – r141
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+ *大松討論
2018-02-28 03:16 – 03:16 仔魚 r133 – r139
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>>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
- e
+ 訪談重點:民間使用政府資料
2018-02-28 03:16 (unknown) r132
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2018-02-28 03:14 – 03:16 仔魚 r123 – r131
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3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
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+ >>目標:產出類似問卷的東西
+
+ e
2018-02-28 03:14 (unknown) r122
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2018-02-28 03:07 – 03:14 仔魚 r111 – r121
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*大松討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,
- 1.使用這個法規的情境收集(在什麼樣的情況下會需要適用這樣的法律)
+ 1.目前人們就本議題所遇到的問題的搜集:
+ 使用這個法規的情境收集(在什麼樣的情況下會需要適用這樣的法律)
2.意見收集的形式、工具
3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
+ >
2018-02-28 03:06 – 03:07 tmonk r102 – r110
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2.意見收集的形式、工具
- 3.
+ 3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
2018-02-28 03:04 – 03:05 仔魚 r79 – r101
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*大松討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,
- 1
+ 1.使用這個法規的情境收集(在什麼樣的情況下會需要適用這樣的法律)
+ 2.意見收集的形式、工具
+ 3.
2018-02-28 03:04 (unknown) r78
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2018-02-28 03:04 – 03:04 仔魚 r70 – r77
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*大松討論
- 來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
- 1.
+ 來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,
+ 1
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 tmonk r67 – r69
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vTaiwan 2018.02.28 小松
- *大ㄙㄜ討論
+ *大松討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
1.
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 仔魚 r65 – r66
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*大ㄙㄜ討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
- 1.使用
+ 1.
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 tmonk r63 – r64
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vTaiwan 2018.02.28 小松
- *大ㄙㄨ松討論
+ *大ㄙㄜ討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
1.使用
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 仔魚 r61 – r62
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*大ㄙㄨ松討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
- 1.
+ 1.使用
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 tmonk r59 – r60
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vTaiwan 2018.02.28 小松
- *大討論
+ *大ㄙㄨ松討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
1.
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 仔魚 r57 – r58
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*大討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
- ㄊ
+ 1.
2018-02-28 03:03 tmonk r56
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vTaiwan 2018.02.28 小松
- *大松討論
+ *大討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
2018-02-28 03:03 仔魚 r55
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*大松討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
- ㄊ1
+ ㄊ
2018-02-28 03:03 tmonk r54
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vTaiwan 2018.02.28 小松
- *大松ㄊ討討論
+ *大松討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
ㄊ1
2018-02-28 03:03 仔魚 r53
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*大松ㄊ討討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
- ㄊ
+ ㄊ1
2018-02-28 03:03 (unknown) r52
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2018-02-28 03:03 仔魚 r51
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*大松ㄊ討討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
+ ㄊ
2018-02-28 03:03 tmonk r50
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vTaiwan 2018.02.28 小松
- *大松ㄊ討ㄌ討論
+ *大松ㄊ討討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 仔魚 r48 – r49
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*大松ㄊ討ㄌ討論
- 來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分兩階段
+ 來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分成兩階段:
2018-02-28 03:03 tmonk r47
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- *大松ㄊ討ㄌ
+ *大松ㄊ討ㄌ討論
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分兩階段
2018-02-28 03:03 仔魚 r46
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*大松ㄊ討ㄌ
- 來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,分兩階段
+ 來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,可以分兩階段
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 tmonk r44 – r45
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- *大松
+ *大松ㄊ討ㄌ
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2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 仔魚 r42 – r43
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*大松
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- 1.
2018-02-28 03:03 tmonk r41
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- *大松ㄊ
+ *大松
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1.
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 仔魚 r39 – r40
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2018-02-28 03:03 tmonk r38
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- *大松ㄊㄊㄨㄥ
+ *大松ㄊ
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1.
2018-02-28 03:03 仔魚 r37
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*大松ㄊㄊㄨㄥ
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- 1ㄡ
+ 1.
2018-02-28 03:03 tmonk r36
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+ *大松ㄊㄊㄨㄥ
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1ㄡ
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 仔魚 r34 – r35
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*大松ㄊ
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- .
+ 1ㄡ
2018-02-28 03:03 tmonk r33
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vTaiwan 2018.02.28 小松
- *大松
+ *大松ㄊ
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.
2018-02-28 03:03 – 03:03 仔魚 r20 – r32
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- e
+ 來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一,分兩階段
+ .
2018-02-28 03:03 (unknown) r19
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2018-02-28 03:02 – 03:03 仔魚 r11 – r18
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+ *大松
+ e
2018-02-28 03:02 (unknown) r10
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2018-02-28 03:02 – 03:02 仔魚 r8 – r9
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2018-02-28 03:02 (unknown) r7
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