出席：Peace、tmonk、仔魚、Jay、scott、于珊、fiorella、書漾、孟諍
定位
意見徵集階段的事前準備，搜集要產出類似問卷的東西所需要的材料（沒有在大松做）
>>國巨的初稿問卷＋大松搜集的意見
＝第一階段意見徵集階段的材料（暫定）
ex.Pol.is的預設問題or問卷（依方法不同而做不同應用）
目標
手段
分工
其他
來的人可能對議題瞭解的程度不一，
1.目前人們就本議題所遇到的問題的搜集：
使用這個法規的情境收集（在什麼樣的情況下會需要適用這樣的法律）
2.意見收集的形式、工具
3. 蒐集越多使用者情境越好。
>>本次大松大比例著重在民間向政府要資料的使用者情境，如果有公務員在政府內交換資料的使用者情境也很歡迎。
>>目標：產出類似問卷的東西
訪談重點：民間使用政府資料
子魚：
我自己想用polis，一方面是因為問題的層面比較廣，像上次說的那樣感覺和uber案比較像，需要原則性的共識（EX：納保、納管、納稅），另一方面是期望參與的人數能夠提升，讓資料量多到至少超過幾百筆（于珊：翻譯Polis的說明文件發現不建議同時超過1000人使用），即使使用polis也需要先有一些題目放在裡面，所以到時候可能就會放大松蒐集到的意見+國巨的初稿。
TMonk：
1.覺得我們要更了解工具才行
2.蒐集意見的工具難道不能兩種並行嗎？
了解工具：
Q.Pol.is到底是不是AI？
（仔魚：if是AI似乎就應該要去了解他盒子裡的東西）
>>根據人們的反應（贊成反對）分群
>>感覺比較像數學統計方法
政府資料跨部門運用之法制研析案
https://vtaiwan.tw/topic/data-integration
簡報是不是對一般人而言還是有點硬？
>>之後再透過FB發懶人包之類的方式宣傳，不直接變動簡報＆網頁內容。
如何促進遠距協作？>網站「使用手冊」更新
>>大松再來push。
請大家幫填～～順便了解大家看法和願景
題外話：「參與者」的範圍＆分群
請大家給feedback
3.影片拍攝
Hi~ The film’s maker, Christian, is really moved by vTaiwan initiative, and he just offered to do two more films for vTaiwan! :) he is asking if there is anyway he could help out vTaiwan. What focus on the stories should he take, in order to help us spread out the words, any suggestions?
TA可能要再更明確一點：
了解如何使用？了解vTaiwan的影響力？
4.一個英文的專案介紹頁
類似http://g0v.asia/，羅列過去vTaiwan專案的來龍去脈
5.IxDA感言
https://www.facebook.com/ixda.tw/posts/1871263162892119
Thank you! It’s an honor to receive the Future Voice Award from IxDA. I’d like to take this chance on stage to share a little bit more about what is happening in Taiwan, and how the design world could learn from that.
I stepped outside of the design world a couple of years ago and started working with the Taiwanese government on vTaiwan, the project that won this award. So it’s been a while since I was immersed in the ideas and concepts so familiar to everyone in this room: insights, design challenges, brainstorming, prototyping… This is my first IxDA and in a lot of ways, it feels like coming home. And in coming home, I’m also bringing with me what I learned while I was away…
The nature of challenges that are most important right now are ones that don’t have a single owner. We might be able to design something like a cellphone in a private lab, but what about an entire education system? It’s impossible for one genius to have the perfect idea for educating a nation’s children. Even if you are a genius, and have the perfect idea, how do you shift from today’s education system to a future model? We need to think together and work together. We need to be situated, be in that shared space, create meaningful conversation that lasts.
But, how? We wish to tackle complex challenges that are crucial to our society and work collaboratively with all disciplines. But how? how do we all work together, collaboratively, within a large group, with enormous amount of inputs, and still, keep iterating on sustainable solutions?
In Taiwan, we are conducting this experiment at a national scale. After The Sunflower movement in 2014, a student led movement that occupied the parliament for 22 days and conducted a real deliberation, a request emerged, that was a request to build a platform that would allow the entire society to engage in “rational discussion” of public matters at a national scale. The largest civic tech community, g0v, took the challenge and implemented the platform in two weeks. The name of the project is vTaiwan. vTaiwan is an experiment that prototypes an open consultation process that brings Taiwanese citizens and government together in online and offline spaces, to deliberate and reach rough consensus on national issues, and craft national digital legislation. That is 480 thousand public servants working together with 23 million citizens, co-creating policies that follows their rough consensus. It is a “recursive public” that shapes an interactive environment that is capable of speaking to existing forms of power through an evolving rough consensus.
Ｗe use machine learning to help compute rough consensus among large groups; we livestream all consultation meetings to have the process as transparent as possible.
Technology does help, but the key to its success is really about trust. If no one is willing to speak out, there wouldn’t be any comments on the platform, if there is one person unwilling to have the meeting live-streamed, the camera won’t be turned on, then the process wouldn’t be transparent.
I see vTaiwan as an ongoing experiment for Taiwanese government to cocreate meaningful policies with its citizen. But the experiment’s scope is not limited to Taiwan or any particular government. It’s also an experiment to prototype out a model for consensus generation among large groups. It’s an experiment for a new way of working together, to unconditionally trust when collaborating, to be more open and transparent, and to gain the potential to be trusted. vTaiwan’s excellence is not based on how many regulations have been modified, but because of the scalable and sustainable collaboration system it prototypes.
In the open government initiative, we talk about open source, radical transparency, decentralized government, adhocracy, direct democarcy…The four pillars for open government are transparecy, participation, collaboration and inclusion, and that might just nicely guide us in how we could all work and think together as global citizens living on the earth.
These are some of the ideas and concepts floating around in the digital government space, and I am bringing them home to share with you. And even further, I encourage you all to find ways to open up your projects, make it transparent by legible documentation, make it collaborative by open sourcing every step, make it inclusive by creating an open space.
Tomorrow, designers should be ready to enter the field, to bridge across cultures, disciplines and industries, be prepared to real adventures where you will live with your users, when you have to write your own design statement and come up with the design challenge that is crucial to our society and converge to a shared goal. And I hope when that day comes, you are all comfortable with having every step in your design process transparent, participative, collaborative and inclusive.
So, I want to thank you all, thank you for this amazing award. Let’s not take experiments for granted, and I am not taking tonight for granted.