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仔魚 2018-10-17 vTaiwan 【拒絕裸照外流】談網路內容之管制措施線上諮詢會議共筆
 
  • 影片
 
Audrey T
  • 議程
時間
18:30~19:00 報到
19:00~19:10 主持人開場、自我介紹
19:10~19:20 主持人議題說明
19:20~19:30 vTaiwan與女人迷#CodeforGender問卷結果
19:30~19:40 網路防護及申訴處理分享
19:40~20:50 交流討論
20:50~21:00 總結
主持人:謝長恩TMonk(g0v社群)
 
Audrey T
  • 開場簡報
 
kjcl English: 
  • Discusses how the Chinese government uses DNS-pollution to block internet traffic and filter internet block internet traffic and filter internet traffic. 
  • Taiwan wanted to use DNS-pollution to block unwanted traffic as well(?)
  • Today's topic: "How do we tackle the problem of non-consensual pornography without infringing on the public's right to free speech"? 
 
 
 
 
仔魚
  • 專家報告
  • IWin believes that issues like these should be regulated on a per-corporation basis on their platform. 
  • Only about 39% of unwanted content is actually 'unwanted', according to iWin. 
  • Sometimes people report content that is acceptable but against their personal moral code (i.e. reporting content that depicts LGBTQIA+ folk, because they are homophobes....)
  • 80%  of unwanted content that needs to be removed is from foreign platform  providers. Around half of the time, foreign providers comply. 
  • Only 120 cases went to the government due to ambiguity. 
  • Different ways of handling unwanted content
  • (Uncertain?)
  • Interstitial with content warning
  • Age restriction
  • Outright restriction
  • Details the way that iWin classifies non-consensual pornography currently
  • First Case: Taichung
  • A second grade girl's parents found pornography of his daughter online. 
  • Went  to iWin since the Family Protection Center in Taichung didn't know what  tamily Protection Center in Taichung didn't know what to do. 
  • iWin went to the relevant country and attempted 
  • The  account that uploaded it, also included a ton of child pornography. We  flagged this with the relevant government authorities. 
  • Second case: A High Schooler's kid's pornographic images were posted on Tumblr. 
  • Tumblr ignored the parent's repeated requested to take down content. 
  • Third Case: how does facebook regulate this? 
  • Facebook reviews content pretty wholly, rather than usually requiring iWin to flag. 
  • That being said, iWin has been happy to flag on behalf of people in Taiwan. 
  • Often,  people are afraid of reporting to the police, and iWin encourages them  to flag it with the platform maintainers, for instance, in the case of  an account that collected pornography from people and then extorted them  for money. 
  • However, taking down these malicious accounts quickly results in more malicious accounts. 
  • Usually, flagging with Facebook is good because they are pretty responsive. 
  • Fourth Case: A girl flags a google drive link with hundreds of pornographic images of children. 
  • Government requires victims to consent to an investigation
  • Usually victims are not comfortable coming forward. 
  • What do we do ? ? ? ? 
 
仔魚
  • 專家提問
 
kjcl English: 
  • What is the point of regulating if foreign platforms are outside of our control, and that is where the majority of internet traffic flows? 
 
Peace iWin
禁止表現:要區分平台業者還是使用者違反規定。如果是使用者違反使用法規,譬如說散布人獸交的照片,兒少法(46-1)相關規定,如果平台發現有人散布但未處理,平台則會受處罰,而散發照片的使用者,散步照片的行為就觸法,也會受罰。
 
林誠夏
婦女救援的草案:1.手段與目的有點失衡。2.目前的草案還有很多可以補充:譬如...「私密影像」的定義與「外流」需要被定義,否則解釋空間過大。
 
 
自曝於公的個人資料,像是參加遊行被拍照,像是自行公布在網路上,當這些資料被收集,是否侵害到個人核心權力(相對於言論自由),這個裁判要回到法院。
 
iWin
合宜拍照,上網分享照片不合宜。這個在目前的法律上無法處理,其實有很多情境噁能會超出法律的規範。
申請禁制令重要嗎?我不想走司法程序我只想把照片拿掉。
怎麼有效的處理照片下架?需要通知很多人,所以可能未來會有法律顧問公司協助通知。
 
Bai J 補充婦援會服務分析資料
 
 
Peace 林誠夏
不合宜照片下架很耗費成本,使用禁制令這樣的急速處分,是否是適合的,是否用別種的罰則,也可以達到相同的效果。
 
雨蒼
脅迫行為在過往會被表達愛與關心的方式,但這樣的行為是否真能表達需要更多的深思。人與人的關係交流也是相當重要。
 
Tmonk
Womany侵害個人私密影像問卷調查結果:
 
Irvin
區塊鍊為例未來會出現科學理論上不可能下架的情形,在法案上要怎麼進行。
 
 
無論這個法案是否通過,我們應該要考慮有一個專職單位來聯繫網路平台進行照片下架(例如美國的 CCRI 跟英國的 Revenge Porn Helpline )。
 
林誠夏
禁制令的濫/使用要特別處理。例如德國有一個案例是有人申請禁制令,懷疑有產品侵權的情況下,要求Amazon下架產品。由於下架產品是很大的成本,所以Amazon。由於下架產品是很大的成本,所以Amazon要求,若產品侵權願意賠償,若產品沒有侵權,則要申請人賠償這個成本。
 
Irvin
暗網的情況,幾乎是無法追查的來源,所以無法進一步管制與下架。政府在技術上有些無法處理的照片,可能成為法規的漏洞。
 
iwin
暗網的部分執行上目前確實無法處理。
 
 
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