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5 days ago
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Peace 為了
 
 
Patrick C
  • @ael can you share the other one with 4 opinion groups? (I'd love it for later demo)
從加拿大看數位政府 — 公務員培力、組織改造與使用者中心(小班去加拿大心得)
 
 
 
11 days ago
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19 days ago
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2018-10-31 vTaiwan 把資料交出來跨部門資料運用線上諮詢會議共筆
 
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  • 概要說明
仔魚 先前為了討論政府資料跨部門運用之法制研析,國發會主辦並由國巨法律事務所執行之委託研究案,於2018年8月16日召開焦點座談會,討論了政府與政府間之資料交換(G2G),於8月22日召開直播焦點座談會,討論了政府資訊開放民間運用(G2C),並於8月30日召開直播焦點座談會,討論了民間開放資料提供政府運用(C2G)。參考資料:https://vtaiwan.tw/topic/data-integration
接續先前三場焦點座談會,經vTaiwan社群共同討論,決定以案例的方式具體化討論內容,並綜合討論「政府與政府間」、「政府對民間」、「民間對政府」三種跨部門資料運用的面向,期待能完整勾勒出跨部門資料運用的方法和困難。
以空氣汙染作為例子,經濟部和環保署間常有空氣汙染的資料交換,並會分別交互使用民間組織「空氣盒子」蒐集到的空氣汙染資料,同時涵蓋三種跨部門資料運用的面向。再以勞工薪資為例,財政部和行政院主計總處間常有薪資統計的資料交換,並會分別交互使用民間企業,如104人力銀行所蒐集調查到的薪資統計資料,同時涵蓋三種跨部門資料運用的面向。
為提早蒐集更多想法和建議,vTaiwan並開啟Pol.is作為線上意見徵集的管道,歡迎關心本議題的朋友可以先到網頁上發表自己的想法和建議,並可針對別人的想法和建議進行投票。意見徵集傳送門:https://polis.pdis.nat.gov.tw/5nckzdszrc
vTaiwan作為網路社群,對於公開資料和跨部門資料運用非常關心,故將於2018年10月31日晚間七點至九點,再開線上諮詢會議,協助釐清跨部門資料運用之議題。歡迎網友實際現身報名參與,或也可直接在臉書粉絲頁上收看直播!直播傳送門https://www.facebook.com/vtaiwan.tw/videos/687410691642300/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDUwNjg2MjU3MDoxODg1NDAxNzUxNTM2MjIy/
 
時間 年10月31日(星期三)
18:30~19:00 報到
19:00~19:10 主持人開場、自我介紹
19:10~19:20 主持人議題說明
19:20~20:50 議題討論
20:50~21:00 總結
 
 
  • 開場簡報
 
kjcl Q: What is data amongst the public? 
A (Billy): Some of the data is sometimes sourced from the public, which helps the government makes decisions. For example, take pigs. The government does not keep a record of pigs, but it helps to get a manifest of pigs, so it asks for the farmers to provide a manifest. If the government wants to provide quality data, it must consider the public as a source, but that comes with its problems. 
 
Follow-up: Is Public data always free? If we are talking about government open data, we should keep this discussion closed to open data. 
A: That makes sense, but when we had our discussions, we had always included it. If people don't think it's important, we can always change it. 
 
  • 專家報告
仔魚 國發會科長報告
 
 
 
 
kjcl From government data from the highest level, there is the problem of providing data from government agency A to B. Between government entities, there is an opportunity to share data. From the opening report, I found several problems. When entity A asks for data from entity B, they must give some reasons. Entity B must decide on the reasons given by entity A as to whether or not it is appropriate to provide the data. 
 
An example: Ministry of Highways and the Police. The Ministry of Highways was unwilling to agree to providing information to the Police because of privacy issues. 
 
It might be possible to create clear data pipelines between different government agencies. 
 
Now to answer the other part: Government providing open data to the public. 
 
Then this is a much harder question. If the government provides data to the public, we have to go back to a more fundamental question: Does the government have the right to provide data to the public? A lot of community members were hoping that we could legislate a responsibility for the government to provide open data. We considered this, but legislating is not easy. The difficulty is high. Another consideration is: if we cannot legislate, what else can we do? 
 
Through the government Freedom of Information Act (? better trans. needed) is a way of the government to provide data to the public. What are its limitations? How does it do comparatively? What about the Australian government? The FOIA in Australia works differently. The FOIA sets the norm that government must be open, but it does not set a methodology that government must be open. For example, y
 
Peace 不成立的情形:
 
 
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22 days ago
Unfiled. Edited by Peace 22 days ago
Peace Peace
 
 
  • 預計12/5、12分別討論與聚餐
  • 希望能在討論的過程得到大家vTaiwan的想像與心得,建立共識,一起進化這樣。
 
 
56 days ago
Unfiled. Edited by Peace 56 days ago
仔魚 20180926 vTaiwan小黑客松
ipa c 時間:2018-09-26 19:00-21:00
仔魚 地點:社會創新實驗中心 2F A9 會議室
Peace 前次會議紀錄:20180919 vTaiwan
仔魚 出席
Shu L Wifi: PDIS_Public_5G/ji394pdis
仔魚 主持人:
 
ipa c
  • 預定流程
仔魚 18:30-19:00 報到
19:00-19:15 開場、自我介紹
19:15-19:30 sync 公部門進度、當週提案說明、現場提案
19:30-20:30 討論&hacking
20:30-21:00 成果分享&決定下週主持人
Audrey T
  • 下週主持人:
 
仔魚
  • 前情提要
 
 
  • 決議事項
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Cheng H
  • 分享(請提案人補充詳情)
 
 
  • 本週討論(請提案人自行補充詳情)
  • 坑(待辦事項認領區)
 
vTaiwan基礎建設
  • 整理 google drive:把檔案整理好、專案追蹤
Peace
  • 社群基礎建設:Peace
  • 電子報/社群媒體經營策略
  • 追蹤利害關係人名單
  • vTaiwan的流程文字化目前有圖,想加文字說明
仔魚
  • 整理hackfoldr——目標是vtw.link就可以知道自己要幹嘛 
 
vTaiwan歷史案件整理
  • 比較法條&vtaiwan意見:可以用Sense.tw整理後更新連結到官網:tmonk、書漾
  • 公司法:董監事改選、社會企業、公司英文名稱:子魚
tmonk
  • 無人載具 - tmonk
Shu L
Fang
  • vTaiwan 的成果的Visualisation:書漾&芳睿
YiTzu
  • Data Benchmark 基準化分析法/標竿分析
  • Evaluation
tmonk
  • 最後的完成的結果
  • 過程中學習到了甚麼
仔魚
  • 開 google sheet 
  • 寄給以前的參與者協作:
 
vTaiwan官網
Shu L 內容更新
Peace
  • 專案歷程進度整理
 
仔魚 vTaiwan 小松讀書會:書目整理
 
 
57 days ago
Unfiled. Edited by Peace 57 days ago
  • p.39 摘「但證據顯示,這種集合眾人意見的做法,僅適用於無社交互動下的估計問題(estimation problems)。換句話說,它假定群體中所有人都獨立行事。然而,一旦出現社交互動,一切便落空了:人們開始影響其他人,結果可能是恐慌、泡沫和一時的風潮。集合眾人意見能有效處理簡單的估計問題,因為在無社交互動的情況下,個人貢獻的資料足夠獨立,我們能用簡單的數學做綜合分析,也就是以平均值或中位數作為答案。...人類方面,反饋眼下最佳構想的社會性學習策略---一種受限制、人為的社會互動,在蒐集構想前會有專家評估相關構想---能產生群眾智慧效應,甚至應用在小群體也有良好效果。但是,無論是動物還是人類,個體的決策策略必須足夠多元,才能產生這種群眾智慧效應。」
 
  • p.114 摘「有件是(事)顯而易見:如果能使所有人看到互動形態,那麼大家就能攜手創造更好的意念流形態。」
 

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