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232 days ago
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2018-10-31 vTaiwan 把資料交出來跨部門資料運用線上諮詢會議共筆
 
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仔魚 先前為了討論政府資料跨部門運用之法制研析,國發會主辦並由國巨法律事務所執行之委託研究案,於2018年8月16日召開焦點座談會,討論了政府與政府間之資料交換(G2G),於8月22日召開直播焦點座談會,討論了政府資訊開放民間運用(G2C),並於8月30日召開直播焦點座談會,討論了民間開放資料提供政府運用(C2G)。參考資料:https://vtaiwan.tw/topic/data-integration
接續先前三場焦點座談會,經vTaiwan社群共同討論,決定以案例的方式具體化討論內容,並綜合討論「政府與政府間」、「政府對民間」、「民間對政府」三種跨部門資料運用的面向,期待能完整勾勒出跨部門資料運用的方法和困難。
以空氣汙染作為例子,經濟部和環保署間常有空氣汙染的資料交換,並會分別交互使用民間組織「空氣盒子」蒐集到的空氣汙染資料,同時涵蓋三種跨部門資料運用的面向。再以勞工薪資為例,財政部和行政院主計總處間常有薪資統計的資料交換,並會分別交互使用民間企業,如104人力銀行所蒐集調查到的薪資統計資料,同時涵蓋三種跨部門資料運用的面向。
為提早蒐集更多想法和建議,vTaiwan並開啟Pol.is作為線上意見徵集的管道,歡迎關心本議題的朋友可以先到網頁上發表自己的想法和建議,並可針對別人的想法和建議進行投票。意見徵集傳送門:https://polis.pdis.nat.gov.tw/5nckzdszrc
vTaiwan作為網路社群,對於公開資料和跨部門資料運用非常關心,故將於2018年10月31日晚間七點至九點,再開線上諮詢會議,協助釐清跨部門資料運用之議題。歡迎網友實際現身報名參與,或也可直接在臉書粉絲頁上收看直播!直播傳送門https://www.facebook.com/vtaiwan.tw/videos/687410691642300/UzpfSTEwMDAwMDUwNjg2MjU3MDoxODg1NDAxNzUxNTM2MjIy/
 
時間 年10月31日(星期三)
18:30~19:00 報到
19:00~19:10 主持人開場、自我介紹
19:10~19:20 主持人議題說明
19:20~20:50 議題討論
20:50~21:00 總結
 
 
  • 開場簡報
 
kjcl Q: What is data amongst the public? 
A (Billy): Some of the data is sometimes sourced from the public, which helps the government makes decisions. For example, take pigs. The government does not keep a record of pigs, but it helps to get a manifest of pigs, so it asks for the farmers to provide a manifest. If the government wants to provide quality data, it must consider the public as a source, but that comes with its problems. 
 
Follow-up: Is Public data always free? If we are talking about government open data, we should keep this discussion closed to open data. 
A: That makes sense, but when we had our discussions, we had always included it. If people don't think it's important, we can always change it. 
 
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仔魚 國發會科長報告
 
 
 
 
kjcl From government data from the highest level, there is the problem of providing data from government agency A to B. Between government entities, there is an opportunity to share data. From the opening report, I found several problems. When entity A asks for data from entity B, they must give some reasons. Entity B must decide on the reasons given by entity A as to whether or not it is appropriate to provide the data. 
 
An example: Ministry of Highways and the Police. The Ministry of Highways was unwilling to agree to providing information to the Police because of privacy issues. 
 
It might be possible to create clear data pipelines between different government agencies. 
 
Now to answer the other part: Government providing open data to the public. 
 
Then this is a much harder question. If the government provides data to the public, we have to go back to a more fundamental question: Does the government have the right to provide data to the public? A lot of community members were hoping that we could legislate a responsibility for the government to provide open data. We considered this, but legislating is not easy. The difficulty is high. Another consideration is: if we cannot legislate, what else can we do? 
 
Through the government Freedom of Information Act (? better trans. needed) is a way of the government to provide data to the public. What are its limitations? How does it do comparatively? What about the Australian government? The FOIA in Australia works differently. The FOIA sets the norm that government must be open, but it does not set a methodology that government must be open. For example, y
 
Peace 不成立的情形:
 
 
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414 days ago
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請勿張貼商業廣告
 
 
 
 
【最新訊息發布處】
 
 
  • 歡迎加入我們的FB社團報名參加我們的定期聚會「vTaiwan小松」。
 
499 days ago
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Yun-Chen C
  • 為什麼做這個?好處是什麼?
仔魚
  • 為什麼特定數位原民?不是數位原民就不能參與嗎@@?
Yun-Chen C 二、政府如何與網路社群互動
 
329 days ago
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桌遊王/博庠(桌遊王同事)(政府資訊案慣用廠商承包人員)
 
Ronny(國發會開放資料委員)
 
 十五、各級諮詢小組不對外行文;其決議事項以機關名義行之。
 
tmonk 公視我們的島 
資料對不齊,年報月報的數字都不起來,去詢問主管機關有很多說明原因。有一大堆難以理解的名詞定義,與劃分準則(電力分布)
 
 
 
小彭  -- 彭盛韶/時代力量智庫副執行長 (開放資料推動現況)
1.機制:過去行政院院長有下令,各單位都必須跟民間委員共同組成開放資料諮詢小組,開會的頻率是兩個月一次,這個機制是有固定在進行。
 
 
Peace 于珊
。資料取用/主責/跨部會權力/所在地/責任/踢皮球/開放/有問題之後怎麼處理/
綠色和平
。魚翅/使用序號/日本 
 
hychen
。pdf/沒有超連結/沒有ID/中心沒有放好/資料管理/schema亂七八糟(共用語彙)/license不清楚/沒有公開/活動單一窗口/(農業、big 5 Utf-8)
 
小班
。合作單位的政策放在網路上但找不到/關鍵字/不容易被google搜尋/放上去資料本身有格式的問題/資料有沒有被好好設計/公布在網路上/作業程序慢/更新時間不清/換政府就換會議紀錄資料角度改變/公文影印圖檔pdf沒有辦法搜尋/欄位可以選的資料查詢/資料被公開的格式/台灣政府科技理解/下載flash/ie
 
 
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